When our van finally got to the point where it was no longer worth fixing, we thought we would have to scrap it. After looking at the options for selling a vehicle beyond repair to a salvage lot, the payout was embarrassing! I could have sold one tire and made more than what they wanted to pay me for the whole car!
Imagine my excitement when I found out that we qualify for a program that will give us $1,500 instead of $50. If a friend hadn’t tipped me off to the idea, I would have missed out on $1,450! That’s more than pocket change!
Many people are leaving money on the table just because they don’t know they can still get cash for their clunker with vehicle retirement programs. I’m excited to give you the details so that you can walk away with more money for your very used car.
Our Story
If you’ve been reading here for a while you’ve heard about our car drama. Because we’re totally focused on paying off six figures of student loan debt in a hurry, we’re sliding by with vehicles that are less-than-stellar, you might say. Any bells and whistles they had when they were manufactured (ahem… nearly twenty years ago) have morphed into quirks. We call it personality. They are safe and generally reliable, but they require maintenance pretty frequently.
We always plan to drive our vehicles into the ground and are happy to be their final owners. That means we have to figure out what to do with our vehicles when it’s time to lay them to rest. If you’re higher up on the vehicle food chain, you probably haven’t had to deal with this issue.
The Problem
We loved our purple van and had a hard time parting with it. The hardest part was that the van was working fine. Of course it had plenty of quirks, but in our four years of ownership we were well accustomed to them.
The problem was that the van wouldn’t pass its smog test. Apparently, there was a transmission issue on the horizon that was causing it to fail the high standards of California’s emissions test, although it wasn’t manifesting itself in usability yet.
California has strict regulations when it comes to smog certification. A new smog certification is required every two years in order to renew your vehicle’s registration. In addition, the title cannot be transferred unless the vehicle passed smog within 90 days of the sale or transfer.
Though our car was working fine, we could not sell it or keep it (at least with legal registration). After continuing to drive it locally with expired plates while we hunted for another one (which was a lemon) and then another one, we were more than thrilled to be able to “retire” our vehicle and get paid well for it!
History
Though the current program and its predecessor are quite different, it’s good to know the history as some terms are used interchangeably and can confuse the uninitiated.
You might remember the federal Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS) program that appeared and disappeared all in the summer of 2009, but you probably know it as by its cute nickname, “Cash for Clunkers.” The demand was huge, but limited funding allowed the program to last less than two months. The main goal was to get vehicles with low fuel efficiency off the road. Vehicles with an average rating of 18 mpg or less qualified.
The Cash for Clunkers program allowed consumers to trade in their low fuel efficiency vehicle for a $3,500-$4,500 rebate on a new vehicle with an average rating of 22 mpg. Vehicles that were traded in were scrapped in a way that the engines were completely unusable.
Vehicle Retirement
Though it’s still often referred to as “Cash for Clunkers,” the current programs are quite different. First, they are run on a state, rather than national, level. I’ll focus on California’s program since that’s what we used. Second, instead of a rebate on a new car, the California’s program gives you a check with no strings attached. Additionally, the requirements are very different. Instead of a matter of fuel efficiency, the smog test is used as a gate-keeper (though you still may be able to retire your vehicle even if you pass smog).
California’s Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) administers the Consumer Assistance Program (CAP) which offers the Vehicle Retirement Program. There are currently two slightly different options. For more details on California’s vehicle retirement program, go here.
Here’s a summary of the qualifications for Option 1:
To qualify, your vehicle has to fail the smog test. The failure doesn’t count if it fails just for an ignition timing adjustment, a failed gas cap functional test, or a tampered emissions control system.
The vehicle must not be registered to a fleet, buisness, or non-profit.
The vehicle must be registered in California (not undergoing an initial registration, re-registration, or transfer of ownership) with valid, unexpired stickers OR have all DMV fees paid and not have a registration expired more than 120 days.
The first time we submitted our application it was rejected because we hadn’t paid the registration fees. We didn’t realize we could pay the registration fees even though it had failed smog. So although we weren’t registering the van, we paid the registration fee including late fees and resubmitted our application. We were racing the clock to get it all in before the registration had been expired for 120 days.
The vehicle must have been registered in California for the previous two consecutive years without a lapse in registration.
You can retire one vehicle as the sole owner or 2 vehicles as joint owner within a 12 month period.
If your vehicle qualifies for the program, there are some vehicle equipment and operational requirements that you must pass. Honestly, they are pretty laughable. You must have all the doors, hood lid, dashboard, windshield, driver’s seat, side/quarter panels, exhaust system, at least one side window glass, at least one bumper, and at least one headlight, tail light, and brake light. Additionally the car must start on its own, have operational pedals and drive at least 10 yards under its own power.
Our purple van was luxurious compared to those minimal standards.
The standard payment is $1,000 per retired vehicle, but if you fall into a low income category you will get $1,500.
The differences with Option 2:
Most of the requirements are the same as above, but option 2 is just available for households considered low income.
It doesn’t matter if the vehicle fails or passes the smog test.
If the vehicle has not been registered in California for two consecutive years, it may still be eligible if you can prove that it has been primarily driven in California for the last two years. You can do that by showing two years of continuous car insurance coverage OR auto repair receipts from each of the past two calendar years (see more details here).
What is considered low income?
You are considered low income if you make less than 225% of the poverty level. If you qualify, you will need to provide documentation. We included a copy of our most recent tax return when we submitted our application.
You can check the chart below to see if you qualify for low income vehicle retirement ($1,500). If your income is at or below the income listed for your family size, you qualify as low income.
| Family Size | 225% of the federal poverty level |
| 1 | $26,482 |
| 2 | $35,842 |
| 3 | $45,202 |
| 4 | $54,562 |
| 5 | $63,922 |
| 6 | $73,282 |
| 7 | $81,832 |
| 8 | $92,002 |
What about other states?
I’m not familiar with vehicle buyback programs in other states. From what I can tell, California has the strictest standards regarding emissions, so the vehicle retirement program is the consolation prize that goes along with the strict standards.
Take a look at your state government’s automotive page (or search the name of you state’s emissions test) to see if your state offers any help to pay for repairs or will buy back cars that don’t meet the standards. I would love to hear what you find or know about your own state’s programs!
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Hi. How long did the inspection take. Did they drive your vehicle?
I find it interesting that with these requirements:
‘All of the following must be present: all doors, hood lid, dashboard, windshield, at least one side window glass, driver’s seat, at least one bumper, exhaust system, all side and/or quarter panels, and at least one headlight, one taillight, and one brake light.’
Nothing is said about body damage.
Thanks!
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How long does it take them to approve?
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Does both owner need to be present at dismantling place even the title show OR between names?( ex: John or Steve )
I’m not sure Nathan. I recommend calling the yard you’re planning to bring the vehicle to and asking if both have to be there. Those are the folks you’re going to have to actually do the transaction with, so they can give you a better response than I could.
Check out the BAR website.
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I want to retire my wife’s mini van but the transmission is shot and won’t go in reverse..I’m positive it will pass smog, but can’t drive it the shop..btw, I just paid registration renewal..don’t wanna spend $1000 on new transmission if I don’t have to..what should I do ?
May I still retire my car from DMV if my car has been total lossed and the title has been changed to salvage and registered at DMV. Thank you
How do I put my car out of order and get cash for it because will not pass smog
How did a bad transmission fail smog? My transmission is failing won’t go into 2 and 3 rd gear but still pass smog. And it’s leaking. How did you did yours to fail smong 😋. Need new car.
Im going to retire my car the transmission just went out but it will try and second gear 30 miles an hour I have to take it to the station to retire it is it okay to drive it in second as long as it moves forward 10 yards
I don’t think that matters. I say go ahead with it! 🙂
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do you get paid the day you drop off your car ?
I had to reapply waited 28 days so far . Status on line says ,”We are in receipt of the information sent. We will send a letter of determination when process is complete. ” Has anyone had a similar experience? What was the outcome of waiting ? Can it take this long to be disqualified ?
Thank you Stephanie very much your review is so great and very helpful
Thank you for your time.
I have my 1997 mustang who needs to be retired how can I make that happen ?
I received 1500.00 but not sure if I have to file taxes on that money. Does anyone know?
For people who live in the Bay Area (SF, Oakland, San Jose, etc) you might also look at this program. http://www.baaqmd.gov/grant-funding/residents/vehicle-buyback-program
Great 👍 review of how the program works and Congratulations! I just got my letter from BAR but they want it to fail a smog test first despite it being a 1994 made and sold in 1995. I would think that they would want to get an old van with bad mileage off of the road but it seems a new rule is it has to fail smog. For the 40.00 dollars I think it’s worth a shot to smog test it since it has been 2 years and it alway seems to barley pass.
I just apply! Check my status online.
It says: Congratulations!! You qualified.
Waiting for letter and instructions.
Will keep updates
does both owner need to be present at dismantling place even the title show OR between names?( ex: John or Steve )
does both owner need to be present at dismantling place even the title say OR between the first and second name ?( ex: John or Steve )
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I also wanna sell my van but who do I contact
Can anyone give me the phone #
Hi I’m trying to sell my 2007 Pontiac Grand prix’s it runs just won’t pass smog because it needs some work done to it so I’m trying to sell it.
Hey folks, be aware that the fiscal year for funding runs from 1 July to 30 June. I am writing this 11 April 2017 and there are no funds left at this time. Keep this in mind if you want to apply. Also applications can take 4-6 weeks which is a factor to consider as well as many other requirements; such as car must run and be able to be driven to reclamation just to name a couple. Make sure you research the DCA – California Department of Consumer Affairs, BAR – Bureau of Automotive Repair, and CAP – Consumer Assistance Program. Timing is everything if you want to get max bucks for your beater.
The link you gave shows a big “NOT AVAILABLE” across both options — !!??
Hi, I was told you guys buy cars, working or not, how do I reach someone about that?
Good summary! What month did you submit for the payment? (And when did you get it?)
I’ve heard submissions may be more likely to be approved early in the year when there is plenty of funding remaining in the program, but I haven’t found much advice one way or another online. Now it’s the end of November and I’m considering if I should submit now, or wait until January….
I hate calif smog we should vote these smog jerks out of office.
I wish we had looked into this when we sold our little car a few years ago, though we live in Kansas and I’m not sure how the program works here. We sold our car for $500 – it ran, but very poorly (and needed a new engine). I do take peace in knowing that the person who bought it wanted to fix it up so that his wife would have a car of her own.
We sold a car for less than it was worth (before we got our first van). We thought it wouldn’t be very desirable because the AC was broken, but we go tons of interest in it and sold it to the first person who came to see it. It was the first car we had ever sold. We didn’t realize that there was a good market for cars without AC, so we priced it at $900! Still, we were happy that it went to a good home.
That’s awesome you could use this program to get a rebate for your van! I am totally in the “last owner” camp for cars, although right now, we are living car-free. But it’s good to know that we should shop around before taking a low-ball offer.
That is amazing that you are living car-free Erin!
I think that under the “low income” numbers you gave, a family of five would be $63,922 and not $93,922. 🙂
Good catch E! I just fixed that typo! Thanks 🙂